colector: Re: [JournalWriting] Re: My Thoughts On Suicide

Johnny-come-lately, as it were, but ditto both to what Kathi & Linda expressed.

Ray, we love you man (think bad beer commercial)

And now I disappear again (just like the Illusionist - a movie I watched over the week-end and really enjoyed!)

John

From: Kathi Rose <kathirose2002@yahoo.com>
Date: 2008/03/16 Sun PM 12:03:56 CDT
To: JournalWriting@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [JournalWriting] Re: My Thoughts On Suicide

and a hug back to you, Linda. I have missed you here. kathi

"L. Campbell" <bc21@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

Hugs to you Kathi. Linda

-----Original Message-----
From: Kathi Rose
Sent: Mar 10, 2008 5:30 PM
To: JournalWriting@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [JournalWriting] Re: My Thoughts On Suicide

Ray...I need to say that if this were to happen that even though i am terrified of flying i will be with Linda. Just the thought of this happening breaks my heart..one of my hopes is to meet you in person, talk by the lake and take picture of great big hugs. I understand your thinking and honor and respect your choices but why are you giving up the fight if it were to happen--cancer returning? I sense a weariness in your words and i know you have recently had a extremely emotionally event happen to you in the fact that your love had to move. I want to tell you my experience. I went to rehab two times--once in 1990 and once in 1992. My counselor scared the snot out of me because she had discernment and could see right through my defenses and called me on them very harshly. The second time i went i hadn't drank but i was crazy and Patty got me right into treatment again. Her fear that instead of drinking again I would probably suicide out. Both times i left Sundown M i left saying i was going to come back to work there and be just like Patty B. Well, since then i have enough confidence to take some of Patty's skills and incorporate them into my style of counseling. I absolutely love that lady and she doesn't scare me anymore--and i am sober for 17 years now. Patty moved back to Selah recently after the death of her husband and i have been blessed to have Patty back in my life---I have asked her to mentor me. She is doing volunteer work at my facility and told me i am a wonderful counselor....coming from her that meant everything to me. Well, the point I have been attempting to get to is this....Patty has fought lung cancer seven times as it keeps coming back....and it is currently back for the eighth time. She will fight it again. I know you and Patty are different and each can make their own decisions. I would say you are the most loved person in this group and we have become extended family (some of us) so each of us would be affected by your choice. I have had my skin cancer come back numerous times--over ten--and i also know the kind of cancer it is--is not fatal. But, as of now i don't think your cancer has come back since you didn't say so. I just needed to share my words and thoughts with you. Love and Hugs, Kathi

Linda Campbell <bc21@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
Wait a minute! Granted, I wasn't in on the beginning of this thread but I'm telling you, Raymond Weaver, that is you even think about
doing such a thing, I will jump on an airplane and come strangle you myself!

I have enough people abandoning me as it is, so forget about getting in line.

Linda

--- In JournalWriting@yahoogroups.com, Ray wrote:

There are two kinds of suicide, I think. One is born of a a
darkness and despair so deep that death seems the only answer to
escape the pain. I've been there. I talk about it in "My Secret Identity", a kind of autobiography that I'm writing (in fits and
starts).

There is also the rational choice of allowing nature to take its
course. I've decided that should cancer return, I will not fight it, this time. I'm 65. For a long time, now, I go to more wakes
and funerals than I do marriages and christenings. I've lived a good life, have loved and been loved, laughed and cried...what else is there? I'm not afraid to face any "judgment." I haven't been perfect, but, more often than not, my "sins" were against myself. I have paid for those sins. Generally, I have tried to live the Golden Rule as it was in my power to do so. I want to leave this life with a heart full of gratitude and still laughing. > > > > > > Katharine The Grate <KATHARINETHEGRATE>wrote: > I think there can be extreme bravery involved in the decision to kill one's self.
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